Clomid - and smoking !

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Hi there

I am soon to be a qualified reflexologist- next month. I used my friend to practice on - not as a case study as I felt it was not right. Can you please tell me if I was wrong...........she is on Clomid and she smokes! I am no baby expert apart from having 2 of my own, but having read alot of midwifery/maternity info and hope to go down that path with maternity reflexology and fertility/infertility issues, I just did not want to treat her as she was smoking too. I am just recently friends with her - her daughter is friends with my daughter and I felt a little uncomfortable with her smoking also. It is not up to us to judge people who smoke or any other issue for that matter but I was a little uncomfortable with it and I assume a major factor for her not getting pregnant 'could' be the smoking? I would be grateful for your help. I so wish her to get pregnant and wish her the best of luck but surely smoking is just adding more problems? I did say that it is best for a healthy lifestyle, partner to take zinc, cut out smoking, exercise etc etc, as a friend. But she has not listened to me! It just makes me cross she is not helping herself. What can I do. She has just finishedher 2nd cycle of Clomid and I did not treat her whilst she was taking it. I did not feel at ease whilst she was taking Clomid to treat her.


Just to clarify - after I keep waffling ..... should i have continued to treat whilst taking Clomid. There are many posts I have read about not to treat / to treat whilst taking infertility drugs, but what are the facts here how many people would as reflexologists actually treat a client who is taking Clomid or similar drugs.

HELP!! PLEASE I am confused. When I do maternity reflexology I am sure it will all become clearer but for now - I just so want to help her.
Thanks so much.
Waffle over
 
Dear TJG

Congratulations on nearly qualifying. I'll be due to qualify (hopefully) in July this year.

I hear what you're saying in your post and I am treating my best friend as a case study who is in a very similar position. She is hoping to be prescribed clomid by her GP soon and I have mixed feelings about this, but she is in her mid 30s and is not desperate to have kids, but also recognises that if she's going to do it, it needs to be now. Possibly unlike your friend, she has PCOS and suspected endometriosis so clomid could help her. I hope to continue treating her throughout and ideally into her pregnancy, should she achieve it, way past a case study basis.

I feel the benefits of having someone there entirely concerned for your wellbeing far out way the potential concerns about treating a client taking clomid. You can only offer your best and informed advice concerning lifestyle choices and I feel smoking cannot be the only factor at play in this situation as so much can affect your endocrine system to throw it out of balance, let alone any other physiological/mental factors. As long as I have known my friend (more than half my life now!) she has had problems with her menstruation and that has continued despite all sorts of factors that we have gone through as we grew up.

I'm waffling now too, but you should feel confident to treat this person irrespectively because you obviously care about her (enough to ask the question), but don't be down on her about the smoking. Trust me, she knows the risks and she will give up if her need is great enough. Ditto the exercise, etc. I feel exactly the same as you, and am currently throwing information at my friend about the best nutrition, coping mechanisms for stress, etc, etc, for her condition, but if she doesn't want to take any of these things on board, that is her decision and I have to respect that, but at least I can wholeheartedly say I tried!!

Good luck with the course in September and I hope this gives you some confidence!
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JoJo
 
Hi,

Giving a reflexology treatment while a client is taking Clomid seems very contradictory. So does smoking!!

Reflexology is trying to balance the body and encourage a monthly cycle producing one egg at a time. Clomid encourages more eggs to be produced and so, both treatments would compete with one another. Best to stop treatments until the course of medication is completed is my understanding.

As for smoking. Well!! I'm afraid I am not very tolerant of smokers. It is their choice of course, but if someone came to me wanting help I would expect them to at least cut down. I would never tell them to give up (far too stressful for them and it is not my place to do so) but they would have to work with me not against. Ethically I don't think I could refuse a smoker any treatment after all, the treatment may help them to cut down.


Maggie xx
 
As someone who suffers from infertility reflexology is always something that I've been told is a good thing.
 
Hi Moshe
Thank you for your reply. My word I posted this 12 months ago and forgot all about it. Having qualified since and also been to your wonderful course. I have since worked with a couple of ladies who are having difficulty conceiving and now trying to encourage the man in their lives to have a treatment too. Since writing this post a year ago I have learnt alot but unfortunately the lady in question still has not conceived but is going down the IVF route as did her sister a few years ago. Our paths do not cross now as much as it did, but hopefully in the near future she will have some good news.

Many thanks
T x
 
Hi TJG

Oooooops!

Yes, now I saw that you posted this message a year ago....
I saw Feb.19th, didn't pay attention to the year. :-)

Sorry for that.

Moshe
 
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    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  35. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ ANIKA, ELENA and SUSU are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  36. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Tina, Jennifer and Sophia ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  37. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 9 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, PRIYA, MONIKA, SUMMER, ANGEL, ANAYA, DIYA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  38. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA : is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body, deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. KITTY : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Sunny friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide, ๐Ÿ…new girl Lily is very beautiful ,long hair deep and relaxing massage ,really popular ,๐ŸŽnew girl Selina big boobs ,good strong massage,back walk ,good communication,give you fun and warm time ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธIsabella Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Annie Spa:
    Our famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday February 20th with busty 36DD new young girl Bobo, horny & sexy service queen Cici and Sweet Sensual Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ Suki only works on Thursdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advanceโ€ฆitโ€™s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa when Suki is working ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅฐ Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 647-891-9688
  43. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality.
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: LUCY, YOYO & CINDY. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. YOYO is a very beautiful slim Chinese lady, 165Cms & 116 Lbs with natural D Cups & a VERY sexy figure. She provides the best versatile PSE services. (Shhh, donโ€™t tell anyone: YOYO is a hidden GEM, total SUPERSTAR
  46. OrchidSPA:
    Today is Mia & Tiffany ๐Ÿซฆ Mia has Lovely Sexy Body ~ Provides a Smooth Full Body Massage ๐Ÿ’„Tiffany is Young and Very Sexy Girl with natural 34C boobs ๐Ÿ‘„ Open: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ (437) 220-6963 ~ 3601 Highway 7, Unit#103, Markham
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is amazing slim
  48. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐ŸซฆHappy & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ‘ Happy is a very talented Korean Babe ๐Ÿ’„Nayla Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl ๐Ÿ’‹|| ๐Ÿค— Walk-Ins Always Welcome ๐Ÿ“… Open 8am til Late #26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  49. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and suki work
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 Now there are 3 girls working, sexy girl Mia big boobs 36 DD hot body slide๐Ÿ˜˜ Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking
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