DFK - Why Classified as an "extra"

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Something that I have always been curious about ever since the nutty lists were making the rounds was why DFK was treated as an 'extra' in the same manner as bj's etc . As far as I know it is not illegal ( or the kissing booths at country fairs would be outlawed - lol ) so why the problem ?

There was a poll sometime back which surprisingly showed this as the most desired activity . Ignoring , for the moment , the sadness that you need to pay to get kissed and the obvious YMMV due to breath , teeth etc , I'm having a hard time seeing why this is such a big deal in terms of secrecy . There are a least a few MPA's that have taken the poll to heart and seem to want to provide this as part of the regular service .

Guess I have missed the point somewhere along the line .
 
I understand your point but DFK is a very intimate act. Frankly I love it if I really like the lady. I think that many of the MPA's don't do this - or at least with me. Glad to hear that more want to provide it.

V12
 
As I recall, it was called DFK so as not to draw attention to the ladies. They used DFK but really implied much much more.
 
If you've ever been on the "inside" at a MP, if a girl walks out of an appointment without lipstick, or if it is badly smeared, she could easily be fired, as the boss will think she is giving BJs.
 
There are a lot of SP's who don't alow DFK. It is a more initmate act than say DATY. As far as the lists go, don't trust them until you have obtained first hand experience.
 
Being new to all of this, could someone please enlighten me on these terms

YMMV
DATY
DFK
 
its funny how someone thinks that DFK is too initmate but then allows DATY. Go figure?

I do agree, however, that DFK may lead to some sort of emotional involvement, which I think the MPA wants to avoid at all costs.
 
Look in the lounge at the sticky thread

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=370
 
DFK is definately more intimate. It can confuse some clients because it gives them the idea that something more than what goes on is possible. Although I am sure most guys enjoy that experience it can lead to complications down the road. I have actually had a client who after I provided DFK, insisted that I date him. I told him I wan't interested and it led to a huge issue where he has to be banned from our club as he would never stop harassing me to go out with him. Previous encounters hadd included other things, but as soon as kissing became involved it was like he felt there was more between us.

Emma22
 
I've always found it strange how many girls in the industry ( and some hobbyists ) hold DFK to be sacred in terms of getting "intimate" ( in some cases it's likely an excuse ) ... I thought possibly it's just what they learnt from our good friend societies moral values. If that's the case it would also apply, in part, to it's highly valued status in this industry to some of us.

However, if I were to be sexually involved with someone I wasn't that attracted to, then DFK would be the thing I'd be most apprehensive about, which shows that there is some type of added physical contact above other sexual acts. But then again, as much as I hate to admit it, I'd be more inclined to want to receive than give in this type of situation. I'm not sure if this relates to this "emotional involvement" thing though ...

I really don't see how DFK can spawn emotional involvement or vice versa in the context of an MPA / client "relationship" ... Emotions are essentially separate from physical interaction, even though they can intertwine, under certain circumstances.

It's almost as though some girls need to keep something sacred, but, as markymark alluded to, licking & sucking of "private parts" as opposed to a mutual a bonding of parts which aren't so "personal" ( face lips, tongues, teeth, barbells ) as being less intimate strikes me as a little odd. That isn't to say I don't see it's higher value under certain circumstances. In essence ( to me at least) , if no emotion is attached it is purely a sensual physical act, within reasonable limits of emotion.

what was the question ?
 
Remember the movie "Pretty Woman" with Richard Gere and Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts refused to kiss Richard Gere because that was considered too intimate. Same thing with MPAs. This act is reserved for boyfriends. Sounds stupid and is the reason why it is so rare. So if you find someone who provides this service, you are truly fortunate.
bruce
 
Isn't it odd that this act is shown on TV very often especially on the reality shows such as "The Bachelor" and "Temptation Island". And on those shows, individuals are DFK'g a number of the participants. In this case, it doesn't appear that the individuals consider this act as "intimate" as some would. I too find it odd that MPA's don't mind allowing daty but say no way to DFK or even LFK. Daty is allowing a tongue bath in their most intimate body part. This must mean that women who allow daty but not DFK must find DFK is more of an emotional thing which they are unwilling to part with. Mind you, I hope to believe that MPA's known to offer DFK, do not allow this with everyone. I would hope that these MPA's would at least be somewhat attracted to the individual.
I truly enjoy DFK if I click with the MPA but I would also avoid it if I don't click with an MPA. It is a pleasurable act that I enjoy with a select few. Even though my handle seems I seek DFK in every encounter, I don't...only with the right MPA and in the right situation.
 
I have to admit - I look forward to finding DFK in a session, and so far, no such luck.

But when you think about it in real life terms for a second, it's kinda funny. You have a really good chance of hooking up with someone at a bar or dance club (non-peeler joint) and ending up DFK'ing them. But going any further, such as the coveted finish, would be waaaay outta line, not to mention not too common!

On the flipside, DFK is so hard to find with an MPA, yet there are other options that are quite readily on the table (or so I hear but again, I have yet to find)

Seems to be one of those 'things that make ya go hmmmmm....'
 
Well I would be Emma22, silly. And I figured a perspective from the MPA side would be beneficial. Was I wrong?

Emma
 
No, not from Body and Soul. I am from Kitchener.

Emma
 
Yes, Emma from Kitchener. Your perspective is most valid.
 
Well, is this the appropriate place to talk about me?? I will talk about the subject, but I think it might end up sounding bad.

Here goes:

Ever had a one night stand at the bar, greatest experience of your life, she was great, and well, you forget to call her, becuase sex, although this shouldn't be the case, is just an act. I've had one night stands, so I'm sure you have. When I kiss some one, especially DFK I want to feel there is some conection there, becasue it is no longer just an act that can be forgotten, or that I barely remembered (due to the presence of copious amounts of alcohol). When I kiss someone, they know for sure whether or not there is a conection, and maybe a lot of people in this industry are afraid or making that connection. It is easier if we can keep work and life separate. Does that help with the question??

Emma

P.S.: I intend no offence to men or women, but damn the English langueage it limits me to words.
E
 
We love to hear what MPAs think. And unlike Mel Gibson, we do not have a clue. So to all the MPAs out there, get a massageplanet.net alias and let us know what you really think. Anonymously of course.

Personally I think that oral is more intimate than DFK, but for MPAs who receive/provide oral or attach significance to osculating, they might want to keep something back; at least symbolically. Therefore the intimacy and importance attached to DFK. Or possibly they refrain because of bad experiences with wingnuts, which spoils it for the rest of us.

Personally I prefer a bare hug to tonsil hockey. ... err I mean bear hug! Amanda Hug and Kiss right Rusty, Ref and all you other switch hitters? I wouldn't know as I am only 17% gay.
 
I love getting hugs from a clinet and I will always end the session with one. I want to remind them that I actually care about them, not just their wallet. I also try to remember something (like the name of their dog) it works for me as I don't think enough of the girls in the industry care about more than their bank account. Also I have a background in physiotherapy so I always can ask about injuries and their status, it makes them feel good that I remember them.

Emma
 
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    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธKarlaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  33. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  34. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,new friendly nice girl CiCi,providing deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…Vietnames Amy is very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch,amazing massage open maid,give you warm and comfortable time,very popular ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅLong weekend must try
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: MAGGIE & NANA. Maggie is sweet, slim and very talented. Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4 (Kennedy Rd & Steeles Ave E) Scarborough, ON M1V 4Y3 โ˜Ž๏ธ437-247-1199โ˜Ž๏ธ
  36. HollywoodSpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: COCO & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. COCO is an attractive attendant with nice massage skills & good services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€
  37. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm: JOJO (11:30am-8pm): is a busty JAPANESE girl, nice DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV Star, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. ELLA (12pm-8pm) is a small & curvy young white girl
  38. OrchidSPA:
    Today is Mia & Tiffany ๐Ÿซฆ Mia has Lovely Sexy Body ~ Provides a Smooth Full Body Massage ๐Ÿ’„Tiffany is Young and Very Sexy Girl with natural 34C boobs ๐Ÿ‘„ Open: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ (437) 220-6963 ~ 3601 Highway 7, Unit#103, Markham
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Saturday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lika, Sara & Cindy. Lika is our new JAPANESE girl. Come & have a taste of the exotic. Sara is young & slim with nice C Cups, trim waist, sexy bum and long hair.She is vary friendly uses her assets well. Tracy is an incredibly cute & pretty Japanese/Taiwanese mixed spinner, about 5โ€™1โ€
  40. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐ŸซฆHappy is in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ‘ Happy is a very talented Korean Babe. She will show you a good time ๐Ÿ’‹|| ๐Ÿค— Walk-Ins Always Welcome ๐Ÿ“… Open 8am til Late #26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today,Young Korea student Hanna 25โ€™s with curve body and young fun Michelle 25โ€™s with curve body open mind, young fun sexy Yoyo with 36DD big buttocks 30โ€™s open mind and sweet GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised elega
  43. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธDaisy๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธNina Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  44. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Sexy girl Mia big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking
  45. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Mia work
  46. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Saturday February 15, 2025, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿค—, Vicky ๐Ÿ‘, Lucy โค๏ธ, Ivy ๐Ÿฅฐ and Sophie ๐Ÿ”ฅ Enjoy!
  47. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  48. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Ivy , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  49. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธLatino ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, big boobs super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking
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