Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

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Have you ever worked on someone that was just like a rock. I mean frozen, like maybe nervous or just the kind of person who can NOT relax.

So far in practicing with a couple of these type of people they end up making ME nervous and tense too. What can I do differently with these people? I try to go into it centered and relaxed but the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.
 


I had a few of these clients at the chair massage event I did with my class yesterday. I couldn't tell what was muscle and what was bone on some of them. They were like rocks, just like you said, and I had only 8-10 minutes to help them. I just tried to breathe, relax, and remind myself that these are the folks who need it the most! I used a lot of warming techniques and some rocking. In one case, fingertip tapotement actually worked a little. I wanted to take a few of those clients home with me, put them in a hot bath with epsom salts and apple cider vinegar for about 20 minutes, and try again on the table!

Kemilyna
 
Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

sandyrose said:
the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.

First of all, you need to let it go. If you are not in a relaxed state, this energy will carry over in to your massage.

Believe it or not, these people probably are relaxed. Or as relaxed as they are ever going to be. Not everyone is going to completely chill out and start snoring. Everyone is different. These people are probably very up-tight "normally" and they probably are as relaxed as they can be during the massage.

Just let them enjoy their "relaxation." Trust what you are doing.

Angie
 


Ditto Angie.

You cant take away 20 years of bad posture hunched over a desk 8 hours a day 5 days a week in one hour. Heck you may never take it away! Only they can, if it is possible at all. We can only assist them.
 


Hi SandyRose,

Yes, I have worked on people who are stiff as a board. I have noticed that part of me may start to get a little anxious about it, but I have managed to let my compassion take over during the massage.

I feel for those people. I may not know what their experiences have been that show up in their body like that, but I think they are doing the best they can. These are the people that need it the most and I give them credit for even coming in a getting a massage.

There is a fellow that I have worked on a couple times in the past month. He kept his eyes open the whole time while supine and was very stiff. I learned later that he's someone who has experienced civil war first hand in another country. He was a Colonel in the Liberian military. He lived through the violence of war for years. I think it's amazing that he can now experience nurturing touch after having experienced something so horrendous.

Just remember when you are massaging those people who are like a rock that they have most likely been that way for MANY years. It's going to take alot more than one massage or even YEARS of massage for them to relax. Believe that your massage is contributing to their well being and that it's making a difference to them.
 


Wow, let me say, do I understand where you are coming from, and you are not alone. This is probably one of the top topics we talk about at work.

One thing, like RM said, could be life things. I have a client like this who I believe had some sort of sexual abuse, and I believe someone told her to get massage to learn about good, positive touch. It does get hard and frustrating, but I try to think about these situations.

Sometimes, I don't think it is just tension like others are saying, I know what you mean, I think they simply can't relax (usually it's like someone's first massage type of thing). So what I try to do, it remind them to breathe, or if it's bad, I just do some rocking and tell them it's okay to relax, that I am going to do all the work, make a joke if I can, some people sometimes think they NEED to help us.

Realize too, some people don't even they realize they are doing it. I went in for a facial and she was doing massage on my arms, and she was like, RELAX!! :lol: I did it, and I hate when people do it!!! And...I thought I was relaxed! And again, lots of people tell me when I just tell them to relax, they laugh and say they thought they were!

So sometimes that will help, other people, it might just be a defense mechanism that they can't turn off. What I try to do is just do stuff without moving them too much so they don't have to "help" and just try to do relaxing, gentle strokes, very slow. It's usually by the end of the massage, but sometimes they do relax!! :lol:
 


I will say also that, as a "tense" client myself, instructing a client like this to relax or telling them that they seem tense can feel judgemental, like I'm doing something wrong. I try instead to say things like "I can feel that shoulder starting to release" or what have you -- planting the suggestion that their body can do it. Or if they are a repeat client, noticing something, anything that is more relaxed than last time, and mention their progress.

Sometimes you will see the opposite problem -- a person whose tissue is very soft and relaxed, but believes they are tense. These people are just as hard to work on, because no matter what I do, they perceive themselves as needing to relax, they feel their tissues "tight" even when they are not. I have not come up with a great physical solution, although as someone mentioned above, compassion helps me get through the session.

There is an old thread on this topic that I'll try to dig up.
 


naked eye said:
Sometimes, I don't think it is just tension like others are saying, I know what you mean, I think they simply can't relax (usually it's like someone's first massage type of thing). So what I try to do, it remind them to breathe, or if it's bad, I just do some rocking and tell them it's okay to relax, that I am going to do all the work, make a joke if I can, some people sometimes think they NEED to help us.
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So sometimes that will help, other people, it might just be a defense mechanism that they can't turn off. What I try to do is just do stuff without moving them too much so they don't have to "help" and just try to do relaxing, gentle strokes, very slow. It's usually by the end of the massage, but sometimes they do relax!! :lol:

(nod) I tell people to take deep breathes and to focus on their breathing and if they're "helping" with passive movements, I try giving them some imagery, like "let your arm be heavy and floppy, like a bunch of wet rags" or "let your leg fall out to the side, giving me its weight." Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, I try to use a different technique or I just give up on passive movements!

naked eye said:
Realize too, some people don't even they realize they are doing it. I went in for a facial and she was doing massage on my arms, and she was like, RELAX!! :lol: I did it, and I hate when people do it!!! And...I thought I was relaxed! And again, lots of people tell me when I just tell them to relax, they laugh and say they thought they were!

I try not to tell people to relax, because I hate it, too! Some people get MORE anxious if they feel like they can't relax, because they're not doing it "right." I try to remember to use positive, encouraging phrases, like complimenting good deep breathing: "good breathing!" or "beautiful breath!" And flood my thoughts of positive, non-judgemental things, too. If they seem like they can't relax, that's okay. They are a beautiful person and will benefit from my compassionate touch. (So I keep telling myself.)
 
Nervous and tense people who just will not relax

moogie303 said:
sandyrose said:
the more I massage and the longer I can't get them to relax the more worried about it I get.

First of all, you need to let it go. If you are not in a relaxed state, this energy will carry over in to your massage.

Believe it or not, these people probably are relaxed. Or as relaxed as they are ever going to be. Not everyone is going to completely chill out and start snoring. Everyone is different. These people are probably very up-tight "normally" and they probably are as relaxed as they can be during the massage.

Just let them enjoy their "relaxation." Trust what you are doing.

Angie

Well said Angie! Tension only brings on more tension.

I am one of those who has a hard time relaxing. Even when I feel relaxed, I am often told to relax and then I really tense up! In todays society most people are always in a hurry. We are constantly trying to do one, two or three tasks at once while thinking what we have to do next. When it comes time to relax, our brains keep rushing ahead. How often do you go to bed thinking that you will fall right to sleep only to have all these thoughts start racing through your mind?

What works best for me is a little chit chat. It calms my mind and helps me focus on other things. I tend to have a racing brain and small talk allows me to slow down. Before long I do actually relax which makes it easier for my therapist and allows me to fully enjoy the session. I know that is not the solution for everyone, but it works for me.
 


I don't ask them to relax. But I will use some subtle suggestions like some of the others have given. I will often ask them to just give me all the weight of their head, arm, whatever. I will also take some nice deep breaths myself to sort of signal them to breath deeply. And I love jostling, and rocking motions. In the end I just try to do my thing and hope they will come on the journey with me.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  31. SL West:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wednesday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€”34D Cici, Cindy, Coco, Echo, 36D Amber, Tina, Lucy & Dorisโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Wednesday February 5, 2025, our attendants will be Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Sandy ๐Ÿค—, Yoyo ๐Ÿ”ฅ and Carla ๐Ÿ‘ Call 905-479-6668 to book!
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KATRINA, SANA and SUSU are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. Dreaminn:
    Available Girls Working Today: Miho (new) Barbie Melody Miho Japanse 5โ€™2 ,100bs, B cup, super open-minded(bbbj ,sf2,wf,dfk,69daty. 100% real Japanese Barbie Barbie is sexy spicy curvy Latina, can speak English and Spanish ,natural E cup, excellent service Melody Chinese Model built, blend hair, angle face but naughty girl, girl friend experience
  35. Suko 5Girls:
    Suko Spa schdule today on Tuesday is with 7 lovely๐Ÿ’“ladies๐Ÿ’‡ Nora, Amy, Judy, Jojo, Michelle, Yumi and Candy ๐Ÿ›ฃ 420 ValleymedeDr, Richmond Hill, same plaza McDonalds ๐Ÿ“žโ˜Ž 905-597-8880 โ˜Ž
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl New girl Maggie ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  37. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธCanadian๐ŸŒธMalaysia ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  38. Kayf:
    Did anyone saw Karina?
  39. JerryWangWw:
    Suko spa every day have 7 different style beautiful girls working here please call 905-597-8880 ๐Ÿคฉ ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Coco -๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜Our new sexy and slim massage girl Coco exudes elegance and allure, with
  41. Q Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜Sexy Sweet Girl Gigi is working with Service Queeen Yoyo today @ Q Spa!!๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ˜˜ ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’Q SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…4465 SHEPPARD AVENUE EAST UNIT #27โœ… SCARBOROUGH - BRIMLEY & SHEPPARD โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-727-2577)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only Spa Landline โœ…OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAYโœ… ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…TWO NEW ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXCELLENT MASSAGE+ ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXTRA SERVICES AVAILABLE ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’Q SPA IS YOUR IDEAL MASSAGE + SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS SPA WITH YOUNG ASIAN SEXY PETITE GIRLS๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’ ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF GIRLS WORKING IN OUR SPA EVERYDAY๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ Availab
  42. Suko 5Girls:
    Suko Spa schdule today on Tuesday is with 7 lovely๐Ÿ’“ladies๐Ÿ’‡ Nora, Amy, Judy, Jojo, Michelle, Yumi and Candy ๐Ÿ›ฃ 420 ValleymedeDr, Richmond Hill, same plaza McDonalds ๐Ÿ“žโ˜Ž 905-597-8880 โ˜Ž
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Julia๐Ÿ˜˜ - A shy new Korean girl waiting
  44. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, MIMI & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธCassy๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธLynda Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธMariaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  47. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Ensuit shower is available ๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl beautiful face Mimi,natural c cup,deep tissue massage ,nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„new beautiful face Nancy strong to relaxing massage hot stone cupping,give you comfortable warm time๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl New girl Maggie ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  49. OrchidSPA:
    Today we have Beautiful Girls Sofia & Mia. ๐Ÿ”ฅ Sofia is Slim, Cute and Openminded.๐ŸคฉMia is also a slim cute girl. ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Drop In and Enjoy A Delicious & Satisfying Experience Today! ๐Ÿคฉ OPEN: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ 437-220-6963 ~ Unit#103 3601 Highway 7, Markham, ON L3R 0M3
  50. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, Address: 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
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