What I don't get about Trigger Point Therapy

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hmmm....well, when I use the terminology "trigger point", I don't say the word "therapy" after it. HOWEVER, I do let the client know that I will be using some trigger point techniques on them if they have difficult knots that should be released. Basically, it's dissolving the kinks in the muscle fibers that have built up over time through stationary deep tissue pressure (using either my thumbs or forearms or knuckles or whatever is appopriate for the area I'm trying to release). I can sort of see why some would refer to it as therapy though...one that is incorporated into their overall therapy session.Be well,Jen
 
One of the teachers at my school, a person I respect greatly, practices "Neuromuscular Technique". While it is not exclusively trigger point work, there is a lot of very specific attention paid to trigger points and the anatomy underlying them. This person is as well-versed in anatomy and muscle pathology as anyone I have met, and can find trouble spots with a couple of comments from the client and about 5 seconds of palpation. I went to her for a shoulder issue that had been bothering me for a couple of years. After one treatment, I have been relatively pain free for about three months. It isn't a magic bullet; I spend a fair amount of time attending to posture and stretching; but it seems pretty effective to me.I firmly believe that a particular type of approach, dealing with trigger points and the causes behind them, can be looked at as a therapy unto itself. It is much more specifically "treatment" oriented (can I use that word? ย :o ) than general muscular therapy, imho, and deserves a place in the field of bodywork.Being a relative newbie to the body work world, I like to mix some of the techniques I have learned from this person in with my regular massage treatments, always considering the level of tolerance for pain the person on the table has. I have considered following up my basic schooling with a more extensive study of NMT. Seems to me a substantial number of pain-related issues that are now treated with pain killers and surgery could potentially be mitigated with NMT, avoiding repercussions of the treatment further on in the client's life.
 
Sorry about that, wanted to revise the ogigional thread so as not to accidentally offend anyone with any language that might be considered abrasive. ย What I was getting at was: The great work done by Dr.s Simmons and Trevell provides us with a great map of the trigger points in their very predictable locations throughout the body, and clear diagrams of the areas where they refer. ย These maps are very useful for those who apply their partucular techniques to the trigger points, but, treating the trigger points is not in and of itself the modality used. ย So, when I hear someone say "I do trigger point therapy.", I'm left wondering by what means they do so.
 
Ok, I'm with you there. I too have a very eclectic approach to bodywork. What I'm getting at is, I sometimes see people list "trigger point therapy" as a modality they use. I've always recognized trigger points as thing which are to be treated, and not as the treatment. ย There's a total hack practicing in Las Vegas who tries to represent Body Cousions as a modality. ย Most of us recognize Body Cousions as a great system for boulstering a client during treatment but not as a treatment itself. ย  I guess the question is: What is it that stands alone as "trigger point therapy"?
 
I think it is the folks that study under Bonnie Prudden and only use her techniques for the entire session. ย I, like many others here, don't do just one modality. ย I have been to Tucson for a class in Bonnie Prudden Myotherapy. ย fun stuff. ย mick
 
I too use multiple modalities in one session. Although, if I am doing a session of trigger point, I will mostly be doing trigger point work. ย So I do view it as a modality all it's own. For example, someone with a whiplash injury, trigger points can be found all over the place. ย I can take up an entire session just working on releasing the trigger points and stretching out the areas worked.As compared to a client that might have mild neck pain with only one or two trigger points that are easily released. ย With this session the trigger point work is just adding in as needed. ย  ย 
 
Thanks for all the thought y'all put into your answers to that one, I really appreciate it. Part of the point of asking it like that was in part to honestly learn wethor or not I'd actually missed anentire modality that would be called " trigger point therapy". As a NMT, I address TP's extensively, They are not the sole focus neuromuscular tharapy, but very important to it. And as I suspected, your answers reflected that you adress TP's while using a particular technique or modality. No one came out and said "Trigger Point Therapy is my primary method of practice and it is blah..blah... clear definition. ย  ย  And here's what I was trying to give rise to. ย I often see "Trigger Point" listed among sutsh things as deep tissue, shiatsu, myofascial, and sutch on the menue boards in several clinics, on business cards and brochures. ย And sometimes, especially in clinics,( and especially discount rate clinics who use the newbies fresh out of school) the therapist expected to do the work doesn't really have the tool in his/her tool box. May not be able to define what a TP is or what types or blah...blah...etc. ย We know what they are and discuss them with our clients. ย Experienced clients are farmilliar with the term Trigger Point. ย Friends of experienced recipients haveheard the term TP. ย Sometimes when talking to someone who is new to, or only just interested in recieving massage hear's the term they'll say "Oh yeh, I've heard of that.". ย The point is, that "trigger point" has become kind of a buzz-word, and is sometimes being used inapropriately as a marketing hook. ย  ย My question is are we just o.k. with that? Is it ok that someone might believe that the massage they are paying for includes "Trigger Point" even though the therapist is only vaguely familliar with the concept? ย It happens all the time, what can we do? ย 
 
I took NMT for several weeks as continuing ed at my MT school. ย Several years prior they included some NMT in their core Western Track course.I just finished watching the DVD that came with my Biofreeze/Prossage samples and it had "Massage with the Masters" on it. ย They were all names that we know and hope to(I do at least) train with.Almost all of them had at one point held static pressure for 8-10 seconds on a TP.I think that everyone is learning a bit about it even if not formally. ย TP's aren't a great mystery. ย The finer ability to know all of their referrals different ways to work them I think is all a "TP" class/certification will get you.For example. ย I just missed part I of Whitney Lowes Ortho massage. ย I do intend on going to them someday...now if I only go to I, and II but not three yet can I not utilize what I have learned?...nope....I likely will not do ORtho massage exclusively.....I will incorporate it into a session as I do onw with other techiniques.Robyn
 
All bodyworkers treat trigger points - whether they know it or not. Some only use swedish, others shiatsu, others reflexology....deep tissue, pin & stretch, tuning forks, shaking rattles, chi gong... you name it.People recieve bodywork for pain, or for relaxation, or both.The primary muscular source of pain = trigger points. Toss in scar tissue/bad fascia, and so-called muscle spasms and you have covered nearly all the reasons related to pain that bring clients to us.Usually we find all three (trigger points, ugly fascia and spasms) together in their body and the client says that's IT.In essence - we treat IT. Whatever it is (the itis?) And it is dense, hard, and painful. IT does not feel soft and juicy.Use any term for IT you want to use. Call your technique whatever you want (NMT, Trigger point therpy, active release techniques, orthopedic massage, St. John method of NMT, european method...)What difference does it make?Took my first massage course in 1985 (two weekends of swedish - do you believe that). Nine years later an NMT teacher (One of the first co-teachers with St. John) worked on my neck and shoulders for 1 1/2 hours. ย After I thought: Nice session, but what's the big deal - This NMT is really no different than what I had started doing on people shortly after those two swedish weekends.The point of this is not to say that NMT classes aren't valuable - they are. Nor that I am someone special - that is certainly not the case. It's simply that humans have been working on trigger points long before the word trigger point existed. Long before formal education existed. Again what's the big deal concerning semantics?
 
]"Took my first massage course in 1985 (two weekends of swedish - do you believe that). Nine years later an NMT teacher (One of the first co-teachers with St. John) worked on my neck and shoulders for 1 1/2 hours. ย After I thought: Nice session, but what's the big deal - This NMT is really no different than what I had started doing on people shortly after those two swedish weekends."This just struck me as a really odd statement. If you could not tell a differnce between swedish and this guys opinion of NMT, I dont think he was doing it right or even at all. I am a certified NMT and you can most DEFINATELY tell a difference between that and my swedish. Also, my best friend went to a massage school here where they spend 6 months just on NMT! I wish I had had an opportunity like that. My program was only 3 months of NMT, but still really grateful for that kind of training. Its so hard to find a therapist to tradr with that can get my knots out effectively. They always stop before its gone :'(
 
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    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot ๐ŸŒน ๐ŸŒน Philippine ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนMalaysia ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน ๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’— โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508
  32. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMONIKA, PRIYA, NINA, SUMMER, MONICA, ASHA, PREETI, NISHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  33. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ New girl HANNA, ANIK, KATRINA, ELENA and SUSU are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  34. Suko 5Girls:
    Suko Spa schdule today on Wednesday is with 7 lovely๐Ÿ’“ladies๐Ÿ’‡ Jojo, Susan, Lucky, Crystal, Sunny, Michelle and Candy ๐Ÿ›ฃ 420 ValleymedeDr, Richmond Hill, same plaza McDonalds ๐Ÿ“žโ˜Ž 905-597-8880 โ˜Ž
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…,service queen Sunny friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…joey is very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch,amazing massage very popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅbeautiful long hair Lucy strong to relax massage,hot stone,cupping Q girl ๐Ÿ˜€๐ŸŒน๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. Q Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’Q SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…4465 SHEPPARD AVENUE EAST UNIT #27โœ… SCARBOROUGH - BRIMLEY & SHEPPARD โ˜Ž๏ธ(647)727-2577โ˜Ž๏ธSPA LANDLINE โ˜Ž๏ธ(249)874-2628โ˜Ž๏ธ โœ…OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAYโœ… ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…TWO NEW ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXCELLENT MASSAGE+ ๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…EXTRA SERVICES AVAILABLE ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’Q SPA IS YOUR IDEAL MASSAGE + SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS SPA WITH YOUNG ASIAN SEXY PETITE GIRLS๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’ ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF GIRLS WORKING IN OUR SPA EVERYDAY๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ Available Girls Working Today: Jessica๐Ÿ’- One of our true superstar girls, Jessica h
  37. OrchidSPA:
    Today we have Sofia & New Girl Mimi. ๐Ÿ”ฅ Sofia is Slim, Cute and Openminded.๐ŸคฉMimi is 5' 3" tall with D Cups.๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Drop In and Enjoy A Delicious & Satisfying Experience Today! ๐Ÿคฉ OPEN: 10am to 10:00pm ~ Call/Text โฉ๏ธ 437-220-6963 ~ Unit#103 3601 Highway 7, Markham, ON L3R 0M3
  38. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Mimi๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜A captivating and alluring new massage girl from Korea whose elegance and c
  39. New spring spa@:
    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot busty ๐ŸŒธPhilippine๐ŸŒธMalaysia ๐ŸŒธKorean ๐ŸŒธgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธAmber๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธKimCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Coco๐Ÿ˜˜- A young cute blonde Asian girl
  43. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, address: 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan, โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธMONIKA, PRIYA, NINA, SUMMER, MONICA, ASHA, PREETI, NISHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: KITTY : is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k, all services that u like! LUCY: is a young & busty Taiwanese cutie with natural D Cups, slightly curvy round ass
  46. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services.
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
  48. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body.
  49. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy black girl, only 53 Kgs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll
  50. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Sophia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
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