Go to for bbbj/cim in North York/Richmond Hill/West Scarborough/Markham (north central corridor)?

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Its mostly up to you. I didn't go there to look for good massages. That's for semi-legit places.

Candy quoted me $220 all in (including room fee for HH) and it wsa worth every penny for me. She reminds me of a full figure Maggie Q which is a dream girl for me. Nancy was GND type, willing to please and lick everything. Too fleshy for me. She quoted me $180 all in. Bella is closer to Nancy and Selena is closer to Candy. Both Bella and Selena are younger. Bella is full figure with a booty similar to Nancy, and Selena is the youngest of them all, slim. Thai Moon I don't think is there any more is similar to Selena but more limited service. Won't even do BBBJ with me but that was last year and I am an older gentleman so age might have been a factor. If you re younger might get different service from her.

All these Intel are late 2023. Have not been back recently but see some of the same names so assume the same girl.
At $220, you can hit most top tier SP girl with a more comfortable environment and flexible service, just saying.
 
I agreed. I don't do SP girls so that's my top end for MPAs.
 
All these recommendations, @tecc ! Letโ€™s see some reviews from you.
So I learned a life lesson today. Actually several, but the main one was 'don't second guess your initial decision.' I was gonna go to Sulexa based on the above recos, but got Diverted to Lulu Villa since it was more convenient. Candy was working today... She's in the thread so I booked some time.

Started out really well! She is attractive as stated above, with a really nice body, great ass. Seemed nice enough also. Room was nice though SUPER dark... Asked me to shower (in room) which I was going to anyways. No mention of $.

Massage was basically non existant but she got naked and got on top of me and the tease was good at least. Asked me to flip fast and got a condom on with little cbj before fs.

This is where it started to go downhill. There was an odour... I would describe it as fishy. It was definitely more pronounced than any MPA I've had FS from in the past. She was also starfishing in all positions and looking at the wall which, fair enough I am not adonis but I like my fake enthusiasm.

Got tired of the odour and asked for a bbbj finish which she initially refused. I said I would shower again and she relented (maybe she was aware of the smell too?). She got a condom out and was going to do CBj before I said again bbbj. gave me a pretty swift but effective servicing and (you can probably see this coming, no pun intended) finished me with a hj. No CIM. She asked me if I was alright after since I think my disappointment was noted and I said I had wanted CIM (I did mention this when I asked for the bbbj). She said she only did it for repeat customers. Asked for the cost and was told $160. Paid a little reluctantly but to her credit I accidentally gave her $180 and she popped the $20 back to me.

All in all not a great experience but before you rip into me, I'm aware I made several mistakes here too. A) I didn't make it clear up front I wanted a bbbj/cim finish b) I went right at lunch time, and I think she was in a hurry... The fuantan guy showed up as I was leaving c) well see the first sentence... I'm annoyed though. Like I said I am a middle age dude with a middle age body and a middle age face and I'm not expecting to be treated like a god by a professional sex worker, but I definitely don't smell. I was not happy with the service but I was not rude and did not quibble with the price.

Will try Sulexa in a week or two once I get over this disappointment, but any other recos for a reliable bbbj/cim from a non-gross MPA would be appreciated.

There's your review part 1 ;)
 
Wow so sorry about that tecc............... That definitely was not my experience with Candy, I guess I got lucky as I think I was the first one of the day (She was just getting ready when I pop in) and she gave me an all in price of $220 so she must figure she has to do everything as did I. I was not a repeat customer but I guess I paid enough ?

I am curious what was agreed to beforehand ? Did you just go right into it and no discussion at all on anything price/service etc ?

Candy is a veteran and Lulu is not her first rodeo so probably not going to be too flexible.
 

Nadia at Sulexa delivers her advertised services
Saw her at midnight, was great.
Showered, chilled on bed
She came in panties and a baggy tshirt.
Started feeling her up
She playfully said "this is SUPPOSED to be a MASSAGE! A MASSAGE".
gave a good consistent bbbj, cim snuck up on me.
69
Daty
She's cute and sweet

My go to for late night bbbjcim
Wish she swallowed
But you can't have everything
 
Wow so sorry about that tecc............... That definitely was not my experience with Candy, I guess I got lucky as I think I was the first one of the day (She was just getting ready when I pop in) and she gave me an all in price of $220 so she must figure she has to do everything as did I. I was not a repeat customer but I guess I paid enough ?

I am curious what was agreed to beforehand ? Did you just go right into it and no discussion at all on anything price/service etc ?

Candy is a veteran and Lulu is not her first rodeo so probably not going to be too flexible.
No worries! I figured it would be a YMMV situation, and as I said, for the first 10 minutes I was like 'well she is objectively one of the most attractive MPAs I have had a massage from and the tease is really good this could be the best session ever...' And then record scratch. Then another record scratch. Oh well.
 

Nadia at Sulexa delivers her advertised services
Saw her at midnight, was great.
Showered, chilled on bed
She came in panties and a baggy tshirt.
Started feeling her up
She playfully said "this is SUPPOSED to be a MASSAGE! A MASSAGE".
gave a good consistent bbbj, cim snuck up on me.
69
Daty
She's cute and sweet

My go to for late night bbbjcim
Wish she swallowed
But you can't have everything
Wow so the '24 hour' thing in the post is real? I figured the whole Toronto massage industry stopped dead at 9pm. This is cool to know. Have you visited Sulexa often after hours? Thanks for the review!
 
Well Candy is top of the food chain for full figure ladies there. I think Bella is more bottom heavy and more round all over. Selena is skinny but tight.

Those are the only ones I would even try if you contemplating going back again. Otherwise it is time to move on.
 
Got impatient and horny and ended up visiting Nadia at Sulexa after all.

Place seems very clean and nicely decorated. VERY small... Like a Liberty village condo. No privacy on the entrance either as I had to walk right past a cigar smoking Mediterranean gentleman (based on the social club that's there). Nadia has a nice body and is attractive enough. good start. She asks me to shower (room down the hall, very clean). Asks if I want hard or light massage... Went for hard. Was a very nice massage actually. Not too hard ofc but she took time everywhere which I appreciated. Mirror gave a nice view too. Tease involved light kisses down to a quick rimming before she asked me to turn over. Bbbj was as advertised, fantastic... And as I'd kind of gone with the intention of getting a bbbj with cim, I quickly announced I was going to finish. Cim as advertised and very satisfying. Damage should have been $140 but was reduced to $120 because someone stole my spot when I got there so I had to wait an extra few mins... All in all really happy with the experience.

Quest successful! Thanks everyone.
 
Got impatient and horny and ended up visiting Nadia at Sulexa after all.

Place seems very clean and nicely decorated. VERY small... Like a Liberty village condo. No privacy on the entrance either as I had to walk right past a cigar smoking Mediterranean gentleman (based on the social club that's there). Nadia has a nice body and is attractive enough. good start. She asks me to shower (room down the hall, very clean). Asks if I want hard or light massage... Went for hard. Was a very nice massage actually. Not too hard ofc but she took time everywhere which I appreciated. Mirror gave a nice view too. Tease involved light kisses down to a quick rimming before she asked me to turn over. Bbbj was as advertised, fantastic... And as I'd kind of gone with the intention of getting a bbbj with cim, I quickly announced I was going to finish. Cim as advertised and very satisfying. Damage should have been $140 but was reduced to $120 because someone stole my spot when I got there so I had to wait an extra few mins... All in all really happy with the experience.

Quest successful! Thanks everyone.
Its nice to hear the gal still has it. Nice review! Do her a favour and post it on her thread or in the reviews section.
 
So I learned a life lesson today. Actually several, but the main one was 'don't second guess your initial decision.' I was gonna go to Sulexa based on the above recos, but got Diverted to Lulu Villa since it was more convenient. Candy was working today... She's in the thread so I booked some time.

Started out really well! She is attractive as stated above, with a really nice body, great ass. Seemed nice enough also. Room was nice though SUPER dark... Asked me to shower (in room) which I was going to anyways. No mention of $.

Massage was basically non existant but she got naked and got on top of me and the tease was good at least. Asked me to flip fast and got a condom on with little cbj before fs.

This is where it started to go downhill. There was an odour... I would describe it as fishy. It was definitely more pronounced than any MPA I've had FS from in the past. She was also starfishing in all positions and looking at the wall which, fair enough I am not adonis but I like my fake enthusiasm.

Got tired of the odour and asked for a bbbj finish which she initially refused. I said I would shower again and she relented (maybe she was aware of the smell too?). She got a condom out and was going to do CBj before I said again bbbj. gave me a pretty swift but effective servicing and (you can probably see this coming, no pun intended) finished me with a hj. No CIM. She asked me if I was alright after since I think my disappointment was noted and I said I had wanted CIM (I did mention this when I asked for the bbbj). She said she only did it for repeat customers. Asked for the cost and was told $160. Paid a little reluctantly but to her credit I accidentally gave her $180 and she popped the $20 back to me.

All in all not a great experience but before you rip into me, I'm aware I made several mistakes here too. A) I didn't make it clear up front I wanted a bbbj/cim finish b) I went right at lunch time, and I think she was in a hurry... The fuantan guy showed up as I was leaving c) well see the first sentence... I'm annoyed though. Like I said I am a middle age dude with a middle age body and a middle age face and I'm not expecting to be treated like a god by a professional sex worker, but I definitely don't smell. I was not happy with the service but I was not rude and did not quibble with the price.

Will try Sulexa in a week or two once I get over this disappointment, but any other recos for a reliable bbbj/cim from a non-gross MPA would be appreciated.

There's your review part 1 ;)
Nice! Too bad you didnt have a better time.

Sex is fun though, even when its not great.
 

Nadia at Sulexa delivers her advertised services
Saw her at midnight, was great.
Showered, chilled on bed
She came in panties and a baggy tshirt.
Started feeling her up
She playfully said "this is SUPPOSED to be a MASSAGE! A MASSAGE".
gave a good consistent bbbj, cim snuck up on me.
69
Daty
She's cute and sweet

My go to for late night bbbjcim
Wish she swallowed
But you can't have everything
She said on the thread that she does throat pies. Once its that far in, shes going to swallow! (I doubt she coukd hoark it back up but it might be fun to hear her try.)
 
I went to see nadia at 3am one night and it was a bad experience. $200 for one hour. Started with 30 minutes of massage then bbbj agree to cim. It was toothy and she pulled out at the end finished with hj. left at 45 mins.
 
Did you make a 3am appointment? Seen her before?

I've been there *Late* and she treated me well. Did an hour of bbbjcim (msog)

girl needs to sleep too lmao
 
I went to see nadia at 3am one night and it was a bad experience. $200 for one hour. Started with 30 minutes of massage then bbbj agree to cim. It was toothy and she pulled out at the end finished with hj. left at 45 mins.
I had the exact same experience 2 weeks ago! Was she like older looking Asian lady? 50+? I donโ€™t even know if she pretended to be Nadia?
I even got a UTI infection from her and had to go on antibiotics for 1 week! Never going to this place again!!
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage w
  31. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa. Open 10am to 9pm : AMY(1pm-9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LUCKY(1pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup, very beautiful
  32. HollywoodSpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: MIMI & TRACY. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž MIMI is a slim Chinese spinner hottie with a great ass, great body slide & liberal services. TRACY is a slim, taller & pretty lady, very friendly with an extensive menu. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care
  33. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: AMY & CINDY. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  34. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Judy๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅOur new Asian massage girl Judy is a vision of refined sensuality, with a graceful figure and smooth, flawless skin that radiates warmth and allure. Her striking black hair frames her delicate features, and her poised elega
  35. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We have two girls working today. Kiki and ViVi. They are both young, pretty, cute and good at massage.
  36. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite school girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower.Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜Three girls every day ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ 5124 Dundas West Street, Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366 ๐Ÿ‘ Newโ—๏ธNew girl โ—๏ธCindy, sexy girl 1.65 M.pretty boobs 36D๐Ÿ˜˜Superb service ๐Ÿ‘ Sweet girl Ivy Big Boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot and sexy body very provocative service ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in directly through the back door. We have ample parking spaces available
  38. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Monday April 21, 2025, our attendants will be Sandy ๐Ÿ˜, Sophie ๐Ÿค—, Mia ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿคฉ and Vicky ๐Ÿ‘. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Happy long weekend,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…long hair Lucy is very good looking,,amazing massage,relief your pain,more experience,good communication,give you comfortable time,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  40. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 15 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ YUKI, PREET, SANA, SASHA, ANNA, ASHA, AMMU, KIRAN, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  41. Golden Flower Spa:
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  44. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKarla๐ŸŒธHellenCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  45. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLily๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธVivian Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage with
  47. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Ellagant Ella, New Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿฌ๐ŸญELLA๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  48. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. JOJO: is a busty JAPANESE girl, nice DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV S2tar, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. JENNY: is young , C cup, big ass, from Taiwan, Passionate, fs good at all all postions, available all services: bbbj , CIM , DFK Come on face , love shower together...always respects customers.
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approachable
  50. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
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